Theres nothing stopping you from doing so, but i think most people plan to shoot 60p and drop that footage into a 30p or 24p timeline to achieve a super clean slowmo. The footage was captured on a sony f5 with raw recorder with an incamera project base frame rate setting of 59. At first, you have to interpret the 60p footage as 25p footage 2,4 x slomo during playback in 25p timeline. When working with true 60p footage, you can slow it down to 40% on a 24p timeline, and it will play back in perfect slow motion, giving you beautiful results. Personally, i agree with you, id probably deal with a mediocre looking 30pconvertedto24p scene for the sake of preserving the 24p timeline. There is a very informative video on mixing all frame rates by gerald undone. I have a timeline with a mixture of 24fps clips and 60fps clips. Generally 60p is a waste unless youre conforming it for slomo, or youre going to deliver 60p for sports. I assume id use a 24p timeline would this give me any difficulties. Right click on the clip in the projects media folder, select modify, then interpret footage. Mar 20, 2020 simple question but ive noticed that if i place 60fps footage on a 24fps timeline, and leave the clip set to play at full speed 60fps no slowmo the footage looks stuttery like on saving private ryan. How to achieve a cinematic look with 60fps 4k footage 24p. Video frame rates 60i vs 60p vs 30p vs 24p what it means.
Depending on your how your editing software interpolates the frames, you might want to consider shooting your 60p footage with a 160second shutter speed so that the 24 fps version will have a shutter speed relatively close to 148 second. Slow motion howto 60p footage or higher on 30fps timeline. Also, you can interpret the footage but it will slow it down. So a trick you might want to consider is to shoot at 24p or 30p and then for the export file create a 60p file as this will typically cause the tv to turn off the motion estimation. Creating beautiful slow motion in adobe premiere pro premiumbeat.
You can slow it down but not much in order to not loose too much quality. Choppy footage problem 60p to 24p interpretation so yesterday i was trying to get some shots with my new a7s. I may miss something but while they did use various shutter angles saving private ryan was shot at 24p, you dont have 60p footage to begin with. But if you didnt slow that clip down at all, and just dropped it into a 24fps timeline, youd essentially be working with a 24p equivalent shot that has a 196 shutter speed instead of 148. I see an advantage of all video being 24p and if using a third party software that changes rates and gives proper emulation 24p like film very well, would be even more desirable. You control this in project setting you have few choices. I really like the style of the old 16mm films which are 24p chris marker, wim wenders, werner herzog. Now if you want to go with 24p as jim suggests for the film look, that would also work, but i believe the magic number for slow motion using 60p in a 24p. Here is a test i did i even slowed the footage down more by 50% in the timeline. By implementing these simple techniques, using 60fps video to create slowmotion in. I use a 5dmk2 and a 7d with the 7d being primarily for slowmo work and thefore shoot this at 60p but sometimes it would be useful not to have to slow the footage down but still be able to edit with 24p on the same timeline. And yes, 60p is supported by final cut, although i dont think many people output 60p. Rightclick the clip, and make sure frame blending is off.
Comparatively, shooting video in 30p mode retains a more cinematiclike appearance but can introduce judder on image movement, which is often undesirable. Mixing 25p and 30p footage in video and sound editing. After placing the footage on the timeline, you apply the frames plus plugin and hit the auto setup button, which almost always works as long as youve setup your project properly. Video frame rates explained interpreting footage and using different frame rates on the timeline. Maybe an odd question, but i am looking for a way to convert my film grain scans from 23. What the other poster may have meant is that 24p is jerky in general due to low frame rate, so even your slowmo may look somewhat choppy when viewed at only 24fps, though the source was shot at 60p. For the first and second method you can use them in a real 24p timeline directly, but for the slow. Sep 04, 2016 i make sure all my footage in the pp timeline is set to work in 1080 60p. The 3 ways of converting 30p to 24p eugenias rants and. And this is where i can manually assign the frame rate.
Mixed video frame rates interpreting frame rates, using different. Turn 60i into 60p for 24p slow motion with one click in fcp x. In my view 60p does nothing for if youre going to edit in a 24p project and not use it for slomo. In the media panel, open the properties for your 60p footage by clicking the cog. How to get the slow motion effect from mxf 60p recorded by p2. Dec 29, 2016 even though i followed the 180 degree shutter rule, the real time footage was not very fluid like i expected it to be. I am a total newbie and i want to start doing home movies bdays, events, holidays, etc and also doing the editing part. Now if you want to go with 24p as jim suggests for the film look, that would also work, but i believe the magic number for slow motion using 60p in a 24p sequence is then 40% each frame played once. Untick the from file tickbox next to the frame rate, and change it from 60p to 24p. Dec 14, 2010 filmed with a canon hf11 in 108060 mode at 160 shutter speed, converted to 24p, 24p slight slow motion,24p slow motion, and high quality zoom, and saved to edit friendly avi mjpeg using hd stream.
Transform your 60p footage into slow motion using adobe after effects how to. I just bought a sony hd crx700v and it comes with these 3 settings for shooting video. So, is it possible in lightworks to import 24p footage along with 60p. Ive never really cared too much about getting smooth slow mo because most of my older shots were filmed at 30fps. Most current prosumerlevel editing applications which edit native 24p can remove the 3. When i export it, it shows up right, but in program it doesnt. Check out frames by red giant software, part of the shooter suite. Best way to convert 60p footage to 24p without slo. If you dont want your project to look like crap, then set your timeline to the same frame rate as your source footage.
With most editing systems, if you put 60p footage on a 24p timeline, it will just work. Blackmagic forum view topic looking for raw 4k 60p 4. Also show some basic color correcting on the final clip. The 60p footage automatically adjusts to 30p in the sequence i dont need to do anything to it but then for scenes that i want to slow down, i can change speed to 50% and it looks perfect. As part of our testing process, we check whether every tv can do judderfree 24p, and also judderfree 24p via 60p 60i. I dont want to slow down my drone shots, nor do i want my whole storyline to be 40% slowed down. You can put it in a 24p timeline, but it will look bad because the frame pull down wont result in smooth motion. Comparing different frame rate and timeline speed combinations. Creative cow s final cut pro forum is headed by many respected fcp professionals. So, while 24p footage can be edited as 60i, it is usually better to edit the footage on a 24p timeline with the pulldown removed. Choppy footage problem 60p to 24p interpretation media.
Converting 60p to 24p without slowing footage does anyone have any experience of doing this. Isnt it supposed that blur and stumble is regulated by the shutter speed primarily and secondly by resampling or other aspects of the software. Conforming 60p to 24p for slow motion is easy with final cut pro x. Dec 05, 2006 at least with the as is method, the footage will be free of post artifacts. Essentially, to convert your footage to 24p in after effects with frames plus, you create a 24p project and import your 60i footage, making sure to tell ae not to deinterlace the footage. Basically the app is dumping some frames and doing frame blending, which gets you back to the 24p. Now if you speed up the stuff, there are several methods. I tried speeding the grain clip up 250% and exporting as 60p, but when i pull it back onto a 24p timeline and slow it down to 24p it is just as choppy, as if i never exported it as 60p. Basically, the best op can hope for is a 30p timeline and get any passable results. Slowmotion software, frameblending, zeitlupeneffekt. Blackmagic forum view topic playing 60fps footage at 60.
I use 60p clips in 30p timeline with 50% speed and results are perfect every time. Here, we take a look at creating slowmotion from 60fps video in premiere pro. Mixing 25p and 30p footage video and sound editing in. Whether youre new to apples popular motion graphics and compositing software or a seasoned video professional just looking to better acquaint yourself with the program. The reason i want to play 60fps at full speed is for speed ramping.
Ive been trying to find programs that can do this for me, so far ive only. Select assume this frame rate and set the value to your timeline s frame rate. Footage 50fps on a 24fps sequence adobe support community. How do i best convert 60i footage to 24p for use in a project. It may seem as simple as dropping your footage into a 24p timeline, but that can result in choppy playback. If i end up wanting change a clip to slow motion i find the best result is to duplicate the clip in the project panel. Im familiar with conforming it to 24p in cinema tools and having nice slow motion, but i dont want that.
If you are shooting interlaced video that you plan to convert to 24p, your cameras shutter speed will determine the quality of frame rate conversion in. The question is, when you shot in 24p mode, did you extract the true 24p frames from your original 60i recording the camera always records 60i no matter what the shooting mode or were you working with 60i with pulldown in your editing software. Im about to shoot a music video, and i will record the performance in 24p, but the storyline and drone shots in 60p. Jan 02, 20 adjust the frame rate in a converter will not give you a slow motion. Either of these processes will be different than if you just shot 24p in the first place. Video frame rates 60i vs 60p vs 30p vs 24p what it. If you did shoot 30p and cant reshoot you can do a 30p project, then export the footage as a 24p footage and put the retiming on best or max.
Approve the cookies this website uses cookies to improve your user experience. The long short of it is that when i apply a speed ramp to a clip, the clip is 60p modified to 24p on a 24p timeline instead of showing me the footage being ramped up in speed it shows the clips thumbnail image on screen. I am aware that most filmers record at 60fps and interpret it as 24, but the real time footage looks fantastic, and not even close to what mine looked like. Now, premiere will reorganize and stretch the existing frames in your 60fps clip to conform to a 24fps sequence. The raw footage is way, way smoother than 4k 60p h. In adobe premiere using 60fps source footage if you use the speed. User support and discussion forum for users of fcpx, apple final cut pro x. How can i transform 60 fps to 24 fps in premiere pro. You can also use the 24p master for filmouts or conversion to pal 25p or 50i. Free script writing software options for the lowbudget filmmaker. Add your footage to the timeline, and it will play at 40% speed. Conform footage from 25p to 24p in adobe after effects cs5 how to. I realize ill lose the motion blur by shooting in 60p and editing at 24 fps, but the change could be nice. Dec 18, 2018 comparing different frame rate and timeline speed combinations.
A tutorial using final cut studio 2 on how to convert footage shot in 30p to perfect 24p. When i play the footage in resolve 10s media page, it pays in slomo as expected. I make sure all my footage in the pp timeline is set to work in 1080 60p. Im also curious about the throughput needed when playing back 60p cdng on a 24p timeline. But, once you have your 60p footage in a 24p timeline, slowing it to 0. If i just drop the 60p shots on a 24p timeline it drops frames and the. How to achieve a cinematic look with 60fps 4k footage 24p30p60p. Cant quite figure out why you have two of the same filters in fcp. The davinici resolve project playback frame rate is set to 23. I know the best answer is to shoot with the frame rate you intend, but lets say i made a mistake. This doesnt affect any of the actual frames in the footage, it just tells hitfilm how many of them should be displayed each second. Im going to shoot some sportsdocumentary footage and was thinking about shooting the interviews in 24p for looking good and the action in 60p for getting slowmo. Whats been driving me nuts is what a medium speed pan looks like when shot in 24p, so im curious if a medium speed pan shot in 60p but edited in a 24p project will still have that studdered look. How to conform canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p in final.
Dec 23, 20 in 2011, i made a quick tutorial showing people how to conform 60p footage to 24p, something that previously required cinema toolswhich was no longer a product. Mar 22, 2017 i shoot 60p footage and then drop the 60p footage straight in to a 24p timeline. This is important as using the new fcpx will cause errors when importing and will cause issues when relinking mark my words. To convert your high speed footage and get a slowmo effect, you had to have a 24p storyline 23. A few can also remove judder from 24p video sent via 60p and 60i signals. Mar 24, 2015 this article talks about creating a nice smooth slow motion in adobe premiere pro cc with footage that is 48p, 60p, 120p or higher and it explains what timeline to use for editing. Im working on a short project where most of the footage is 720 24p. Mixed video frame rates interpreting frame rates, using. If i run 30p at 80%it looks great, but when theres cars and such it doesnt look that natural. Nov 21, 2014 so, if you dont want judder when the camera pans, then shoot 60i or 60p.
My project contains some shots filmed at 24p for normal speed playback and some shot at 60p for slowing down to slow motion either by changing the clip speed on the timeline to 40% andor by reinterpreting the footage to 23. The issue really comes down to whats acceptable to daniel. I just want to mix the footage in at regular speed as best as possible. If this function is enabled in the tv it will take any low frame rate footage such as 24p or 25p and use software to create new frames to increase the frame rate and smooth out any motion judder. Id like my clips to start off at normal speed and ramp down to slow. Creating beautiful slow motion in adobe premiere pro. Conform canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p in final cut studio 2. The clip will be stretched to 120 frames while still being 4 seconds in length. This would give your footage that fastframe look i described earlier and clearly wouldnt adhere to the 180 degree shutter rule. The last 2 clips of the chickadee are the normal 60p24p without the 50% slow down. More on frame rate choices for todays video productions. Nov 14, 2010 slow motion with avchd footage, 60i to 24p.
For 24p you want 40% slow to use all frames smoothly 60 x 40 % 24. Is it possible to have both 60p and 24p in the same video, without slowing down the 60p footage. If you dont want speed cane you just drag your 60p footage into 24p timeline and dont let resolve to adjust it, but this has side effects. Im shooting at 60fps with a speed of 1120, but when interpreting it at 24fps, it gives me a staccato effect. It is a historical thing because it is or was the ideal fit for conversions to international tv standards and therefore the frame rate movie directors went for. Luckily, some tvs are able to adjust themselves and play 24p movies judderfree. The reason i would shoot 60p stuff is so that it could be slowed down in post to create smooth slowmotion. Jun 20, 2014 you mean you want to keep the motion information of every frame when not in slomo i. Batch conform video clips with apples cinema tools how to. I want to start with a look at a the footage and b the timeline in the editing software. Effectively, you will lose half of your vertical resolution. I need to add that if you use 60p in a 50 hertz electrified country, you. Lets say i shoot some 60p footage and wish to join it with 24p footage in the same editproject timeline.
That way, when i throw it back over to premiere in an xml, it will slow down correctly when overlayed onto a 60p clip slowed to 24p. What programs, besides premiere pro, are out there that can really make my. I tend to walk and pan quite a lot with the camera while shooting. You have fps mismatch and resolve needs to interpolate frames. Shoot at 60p to create fluid, sharp slowmotion video. Not sure how to deal with the footage in cs4 but with the mac and fcp we have software cinema tools and you conform the 60p to 24 p and it gives you instant slomo. The tools i know can do this is cinema tools, it can confirm your 60p file to 30p slow motion. As for the second part, what your editor does when you put a 60p clip into a 24p timeline, it drops 36 frames to make it 24p, not 60p. After dropping it on a 30fps timeline it will still be a 4 sec clips as we noted during the introduction but the timeline needs you to provide 4 sec x 30 frames 120 frames. Premiere pro showing thumbnail when a speed ramp i. Mixing 25p and 30p footage in video and sound editing mixing 25p and 30p footage video and sound editing in forums approve the cookies. You have 30 fps, 48 fps, 60 fps, and 120 fps footage in your project.
Motion at 24p from 60p source will stumble or blur, depending how you set resample. If you want to create a 24 fps, progressivescan project using existing interlaced video, youre in luck. Depending on the shutter speed and the number of frames per second, you get different amounts of motion blue. Dec, 2017 most tvs that have this feature will disable it it when the footage is 60p as 60p footage should look smooth anyway. Should i be leaving this at whatever the camera is set to 30p or 24p.
The trick is to slow it down 20% which will give you a smooth slightly dreamy effect on a 24 fps timeline. Jun 24, 20 if you want to know what effects can be expected when using different frame rates on a timeline and how interpret footage comes into play heres an article. There are thirdparty tools for dealing with 30i 59. Notice that the clip goes from being 38 seconds long to a minute and 36 seconds long. Dec 10, 2018 beyond converting video frame rate from 30p to 24p or 60p to 24p, this versatile video converter software also works seamlessly as a video transcoder, video downloader, onscreen recorder, slideshow maker, ringtone maker, etc.
The editing timeline in premiere pro cc and in other video editing software specifies your target. So how can i get smooth, 24fps footage in real time using 60p. The right way to do this is to drop the 60fps clip into a 30fps timeline and interpret the clip as 30fps. Still from video editing software going through the timeline. If you are stuck with the 24p or 30p material, then you need to render to 60i or 60p using vegas resample, or you need to export the footage to one of the programs i mentioned, and create 60i or 60p footage there. After another two weeks, i said to myself, if im at 25p why just not go with 24p and get the cinematic standard. You might wonder why im using old software to get my footage synced up, well, its because it works. Now depending on your software, if you import 60p footage into a 24p sequence, the software will either through out 60% of your frames. Im going to rightclick on the file and choose modify then interpret footage.
Working with multiple frame rates and aspect ratios. Turn 60i into 60p for 24p slow motion with one click in. Is there a real difference between 24 and 25p my camera is capable of 30 and 60p. Does 60p footage in 24p project look the apple community. Blackmagic forum view topic playing 60fps footage at.